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Karyuu · Oct 02, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

You're not listening :) Things like this are considered very light and cosmetic issues in the game industry, unless they are problematic (interfering) during gameplay. It's a difficult job making sure all 3D assets in a game are of a "perfect" quality, because a lot of it isn't art, it's technical. It's the engine, it's the code, it's the armor equip and animation systems, etc.

You can complain all you want and wave your hands around like it's an absolute disaster and you are OWED zero clipping in a computer game you spend some money on. But the fact of the matter is that it's such a common problem that we, as gamers, have to put up with it on occasion.

Go to the WoW forums, a game that you not only have to buy initially but pay monthly for, a game that has the highest number of players worldwide and truly an excellent art team, and take a look at the clipping problems they experience. A lot of them are much worse than this blindfold+hair mesh combo.

I truly tire of hearing this demanding tone almost everywhere I go.

Phaern Majes · Oct 02, 2007, 10:06 PM // 22:06

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

I truly tire of hearing this demanding tone almost everywhere I go.

Then quit playing MMORPG's? Seriously that or stop reading the forums, because the complaining is inevitable. Not to mention, in many cases, such as this, it is well deserved. I mean seriously I understand that it might be a right pain in the ass to make it work for everything, but you'd think the artist/programmer that put it together would be slightly embarrassed of their work?

Not to mention it isn't great advertising for their future products. I'm already not buying GW2, but go ahead and add this to the long list of things done wrong.

Karyuu · Oct 02, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Then quit playing MMORPG's? Seriously that or stop reading the forums, because the complaining is inevitable.

Yeah, I'm actually considering that. I've left multiple forums already because people won't stop bitching over what to me seem insignificant issues, and I'm not worried about disappearing from this one. But maybe I'm not the one who needs a time out :]

Esan · Oct 02, 2007, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

I'm already not buying GW2

Of believable threats, that ranks just above "I shall nuke Seattle if you don't change the game to my liking." If you have truly written Guild Wars off, you won't be in this forum griping. As you are here, one can safely assume that you are addicted enough to buy GW 2, if only just to satisfy your curiosity.

And don't even bother protesting that you honestly don't intend to buy it. The number of players who won't buy GW 2 because of their disappointment with GW:EN is smaller than that of players who run Guild Wars under Linux. We already know how important ArenaNet thinks the latter group is. (Hint: not important in the least.)

Linksys · Oct 02, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50

To anyone getting on the OP's case for her use of English, let's not come across like a bunch of grumpy Minutemen who hate people who speak other languages. She made her point as well as anyone else could.

I guess the one thing we can do now is wait until GW Wiki or some sticky in the Screenshots forum will post images of the new headgear with all the possible hairstyles that have clipping issues. That way you can check before you get it. And if your hairstyle isn't on there, then it probably won't have an issue.

I can already contribute my ranger's hairstyle with the blue wrap things on it wearing the tinted spectacles.

freaky naughty · Oct 03, 2007, 12:02 AM // 00:02

You know there's always that crazy person who says "Why not just wear another headpiece?" and he's always flamed on for being a noob.

Phaern Majes · Oct 03, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by Esan

Of believable threats, that ranks just above "I shall nuke Seattle if you don't change the game to my liking." If you have truly written Guild Wars off, you won't be in this forum griping. As you are here, one can safely assume that you are addicted enough to buy GW 2, if only just to satisfy your curiosity.

And don't even bother protesting that you honestly don't intend to buy it. The number of players who won't buy GW 2 because of their disappointment with GW:EN is smaller than that of players who run Guild Wars under Linux. We already know how important ArenaNet thinks the latter group is. (Hint: not important in the least.)

I didn't intend to mean it as a threat. I'm not deluded enough to think they'll change their game for me. I'm not buying GW2 because I'm not happy with the way GW1 has become the past oh 6 months or so. It seems to me, and this may just be me, but after the release of Nightfall its went significantly downhill. Not just the game itself but the community has changed, not necessarily for the better in my opinion.

All I meant by "I'm already not buying GW2" was that there are plenty of other games out there, that I feel are better worth my time and money. Namely, as of right now, Halo 3. And by the time I get bored with that Assassin's Creed should be out. Not to mention I believe Squaresoft released another RPG a month or so ago? Lets see then after that Ninja Gaiden 2, and I may end up actually buying Bioshock. God knows how many games are coming out for PC...the fabled Diablo 3, possibly among them. Trust me I'll have no issue not buying GW2. My guild is mostly inactive, only when new content comes out do they login and that only lasts about 3-4 days. The community itself has more or less abandoned player groups (not worth the time or effort to actually get one going anymore). And lets face it there are plenty of better PvP style games, though most seem to be console based.

I'm not going to say GW wasn't fun, I don't feel robbed of my money. I just don't like the direction its taken as of late, and feel I can get a better quality game elsewhere. But thanks for assuming that people who say they won't buy it are liars.

Phantom Gun · Oct 03, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

That sucks but I can't say i'm suprised either. They still have problems with some default pre-searing models. The one that stands out for me was I think a male ele hair that would flash from partly bald, to normal when running. It looks great if you stand still, when you run it's like watching the making of GW.

Esan · Oct 03, 2007, 01:55 AM // 01:55

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

[T]hanks for assuming that people who say they won't buy it are liars.

Not liars. Merely irrelevant. And I mean that in the friendliest possible way. Honestly.

illreris · Oct 03, 2007, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by Linksys

To anyone getting on the OP's case for her use of English, let's not come across like a bunch of grumpy Minutemen who hate people who speak other languages. She made her point as well as anyone else could.

LOL yes my english suck, I know. But from all rude ppl that complain about it, you are the kindest and I appreciate it.

In my hometown foreigners are welcome even if they can not say our language properly.I come to post my thread here because I expected the same manner.So I'll avoid all hash words but accept all any suggestion

-about How to write English that native English speaking ppl can understand-

and for the topic :

Some of my friends disencourage me like

"They've got your money why they would fix such a thing that don't even given them any money"

"It's not about your feeling,it's about the business."

But I will wait and see.

Shadowfrost · Oct 03, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Don't tell us your english sucks. You wanna know why? Because for someone who doesn't speak it as a first language, your english does not suck.

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Originally Posted by Linksys

To anyone getting on the OP's case for her use of English, let's not come across like a bunch of grumpy Minutemen who hate people who speak other languages. She made her point as well as anyone else could.

Quoted for complete and absolute truth.

freekedoutfish · Oct 03, 2007, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Im failing to see the issue? although why did you get a blindfold, ive never seen the apeal!

Crowell The Fallen · Oct 03, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

That is some pretty bad clipping. I might hold off getting my blindfold until i see a screen shot of it on my hair style.

impression · Oct 03, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Hi,

Yes its sad that the OP had spend so much time and effort (I guess ;P) and can't enjoy its "prize".
One simple way to avoid this kid of problems would be to add a "preview" button to the Armor/Head/Hand Gear so players can view how the armor will look on is character. Making a armor preview window based in the dye preview window shouldn't be to difficult, I think. Just drag the armor pieces from armor npc instead of dyes.

I personally have bought allot of armors, some of them costly, to look at them for five minutes then thrown them in storage because I didn't like them after all :P. Looking at armor screens helps but, simple things like hair style can make a armor look out of place. Yes, I am a bit picky in how my characters should look like

.

Have fun,
impression

Karia Mirniman · Oct 03, 2007, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Im failing to see the issue? although why did you get a blindfold, ive never seen the apeal!

I can see you don't see the problem with it's unsightliness.

Esan · Oct 03, 2007, 01:09 PM // 13:09

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Originally Posted by Shadowfrost

Don't tell us your english sucks. You wanna know why? Because for someone who doesn't speak it as a first language, your english does not suck.

Between running them out of town and coddling them with false praise, there is a wide spectrum of responses. Americans seem to have a congenital inability to see anything but the extremes, but the rest of us can point out a mistake or two without an automatic reducto ad probrum. Language learners should rejoice on being corrected on their grave errors.

illreris · Oct 04, 2007, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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Originally Posted by impression

Hi,

Yes its sad that the OP had spend so much time and effort (I guess ;P) and can't enjoy its "prize".
One simple way to avoid this kid of problems would be to add a "preview" button to the Armor/Head/Hand Gear so players can view how the armor will look on is character. Making a armor preview window based in the dye preview window shouldn't be to difficult, I think. Just drag the armor pieces from armor npc instead of dyes.

I personally have bought allot of armors, some of them costly, to look at them for five minutes then thrown them in storage because I didn't like them after all :P. Looking at armor screens helps but, simple things like hair style can make a armor look out of place. Yes, I am a bit picky in how my characters should look like

.

Have fun,
impression

I like the idea of "preview" button so I just send it to PlayNC supporter.

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Originally Posted by Crowell The Fallen

That is some pretty bad clipping. I might hold off getting my blindfold until i see a screen shot of it on my hair style.

I have a screen shot for you at my first page

Still working on it!

Unlucky Slayer · Oct 04, 2007, 05:54 AM // 05:54

At least the blindfold doesnt remove the hair like most of the masks/hats/helms in this game.

I long for the day I can have my female characters wear the Santa Hats and not look like they have cancer.

Fril Estelin · Oct 04, 2007, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by Unlucky Slayer

and not look like they have cancer.

Sorry for the unrelated comment, but you could probably find a less tasteless and disrecpectful way to phrase your aesthetic longing for virtual hair under a virtual helmet in a virtual world. Sometimes I wish I had a blindfold.

/end of unrelated comment.

Linksys · Oct 04, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

I don't think it's tasteless to say that characters look like cancer chemo patients when they wear a hat that removes their hair. Sometimes it can look a little sickly to see some scalp under the hat.

If someone wanted to be tasteless, they could say something like, "I love how hats make my hair disappear so I can look like a full on neo nazi white power minuteman skinhead!" That would be tasteless.